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Filmmakers demand that the United States Postpone the Rule of Law

Permalink 09/30/09 06:53, by OGRE / (Jeff), Categories: Welcome, News, In real life, On the web, Movies

This entire ordeal is insane. Polanski raped a 13-year-old girl. Polanski should serve prison time, as determined by the law. That should be the end of this.

Get a load of the differences in reporting when it comes to this story.

Sky News

Fugitive film director Roman Polanski's bid to have a 1978 sex case against him dismissed has been formally rejected by a US court.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza said he could not consider the case unless Polanski, who fled America for France after admitting rape, attended court.

Lawyers for the Oscar-winning director have said he would not return to the US to contest his conviction because he would be arrested.

Polanski had wanted his guilty plea to having sex with a 13-year-old girl thrown out on the grounds that the judge at the time was improperly coached by a prosecutor.

Judge Espinoza said in February there was "substantial misconduct" in the original case and gave Polanski until May 7 to turn up at court to pursue the matter.

But the director of Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown did not appear.


Director Roman Polanski faces more time in jail after his legal team asked a Swiss court to release him and were told a decision could take weeks.

Polanski is being held in Switzerland on a US arrest warrant over his conviction, 30 years ago, for unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl.

He said the 76-year-old Polish director had been on "red notice" by Interpol, alerting other countries that the US was seeking extradition.

But he said proper legal channels had to be followed, which meant they had to know Polanski's specific whereabouts before a country could be asked to act.

Meanwhile, a petition circulating in France, where the director has made his home, has drawn support from film-makers including Pedro Almodovar, Stephen Frears and The Pianist writer Ronald Harwood.

Polanski pleaded guilty to unlawful sex with an under-age girl following a plea bargain. He had originally been charged with six offences including rape and sodomy.

But he fled the US before he could be sentenced and has not returned to the country since.


The filmmaker pleaded guilty in 1977 to having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor but fled before he could be sentenced. He settled in France, where he holds citizenship. Investigators in the United States say Polanski, then 43, drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl.

ZURICH, Switzerland (CNN) -- Woody Allen, Pedro Almodovar and Martin Scorsese have "demanded the immediate release" of fellow filmmaker Roman Polanski, who was arrested in Switzerland on a U.S. arrest warrant related to a 1977 child sex charge.

The filmmakers objected to his being arrested en route to the film festival, which held a tribute to him this year.

"It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary filmmakers, is used by the police to apprehend him," said the petition, backed by France's Societe des Auteurs et Compositeurs Dramatiques (Society of Dramatic Authors and Composers).

In the United States, powerhouse movie producer Harvey Weinstein is trying to recruit more supporters for Polanksi.

"We are calling every filmmaker we can to help fix this terrible situation," his company told CNN in a statement.

If you pay close attention you will see a difference in the way the case was treated from story to story. The BBC story is the only one that mentions that Polanski was convicted. That is the most crucial element in this entire debacle. Polanski is not an alleged rapist, he is an admitted, convicted rapist.

This case comes at a very trying time in this country. Will the United States remain a country governed by the rule of law? Some wish it were not. This case will help to determine if the rule of law remains the basis of law in this country, or if the law will be determined by say, film directors.

This should be a non issue. Polanski should serve a prison sentence, as determined by the law. End of story.

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Comment from: Greg [Visitor]
GregIt's been said that Hollywood is high school with money, and Washington is Hollywood for ugly people. This latest resuscitation of this decades-long Polanski mockery of U.S. law shows how true this is. As was exclaimed by an executive when Charlie Chaplan and Mary Pickford formed United Artists: "The lunatics have taken over the asylum!"

Indeed, they have. Except the asylum now is Washington infused with Hollywood money. Frankly, I don't see the difference between racial discrimination, on one hand, and allowing Roman Polanski and Ted Kennedy, a rapist and manslaughter, respectively, to get special treatment simply because they are "popular." Explain this to me.
09/30/09 @ 11:47
Comment from: Greg (athrillofhope) [Member] Email
Greg (athrillofhope)A further comment, if I may (this is the "same Greg"), concerning the "HOLLYWOOD HIGH SCHOOL" mentality.

Last night (after the above post was made), I heard playbacks on a radio station of comments made by Whoopi Goldberg defending Polanski raping the 13 year old girl. She stated that is was not "rape-rape" and that Polanski only "pled guilty to having sex with a minor" (the inference that it was "consensual").

She justified Polanski fleeing the country because Polanski was afraid of being sentenced to "100 years."

Goldberg then floats the argument that it is okay to rape a 13 year old girl, or even have "consensual sex" with a 13 year old, because U.S. standards are "wrong." She states that "the world sees things differently" (from the U.S.), that "Europe ... the rest of the world ... sees 13 year olds and 14 year olds" ... she does not finish her statement, but in the context, it seems she is saying that Eurpose sees 13 year old girls as adults who can make their own decisions and that U.S. law is backwards and needs to be changed to fit the sexual addictions and abuses of Roman Polanski.

Where to begin?

Just what is "rape-rape?" Is this like "murder-murder" as opposed to just "murder?" The mental gymnastics liberals go through to justify their sexual perversions never cease to amaze me.

Perhaps Goldberg's notion of "rape-rape" means there the sex was not consensual. Let's pretend that Polanski did not intoxicate the girl with multiple substances before sodomizing her. Even if a 13 year old "consents" to sex with an adult, does this make it "right?" Does a 13 year old have the emotional maturity to be an "equal" with an adult in a compromising situation?

This is the crux of the U.S. "age of consent" laws. Our law says NO: A minor can never "consent" to sex in the same way an adult woman does simply because the emotional and societal maturity, and hence, POWER, is completely against the minor. A minor is NOT EQUAL to an adult in the sense of having the capability of understanding what "consent" is, what emotional sexual implications "consent" has, and therefore, is not able to "consent" to sex.

Current U.S. "age of consent laws" are in place to protect minors because of this. Are we, like Goldberg infers, to throw out our morally-superior age of consent laws simply because Europe does not have them? Is Europe, the Middle East, the "rest of the world" (as she states) any example of proper sexual mores for the U.S.? Of course not.

But aside from the "rightness" of U.S. age of consent laws, there is the little detail of "Rule Of Law." Polanski violated U.S. law. What if Polanski violated French law? Would we be debating the "rightness" of that law or France's jurisdiction over actions performed within the borders of France? I don't think Goldberg would be questioning it, if only because, in her view, France is a "progressive society." "Progressive society" is liberal-speak for "has no absolute morals/anything goes/I'm okay-you're okay."

But, at the end of the day, Polanski drugged and raped a 13 year old girl. Even if "consent" was a defense when it comes to a minor (which it is not), how "consensual" can sex be with a girl that you just drugged? How "equal" in societal power can the 13 year old girl be when she is being pressured by her mother to have a career in Hollywood and to do whatever she needs to do to "get a foot in the door?" This poor 13 year old was placed--BY ADULTS--in a compromising situation where she thought she had to do whatever she needed to in order to please her mother. She is incapable of "consent."

Hence, we see how rape is not really about sex, but about POWER. Let me finish this post by saying that my wife was raped by someone she knew when she was thirteen years old. She was scared to death and was threatened that if she told anyone she would be killed. The man almost suffocated her during the act to keep her from screaming. This all took place in the home of a "friend," someone she knew. That my wife failed to say the word "No" does not mean it was consensual. That my wife failed to run or fight does not constitute "consent." My wife was overpowered by fear and pressure to "perform" and was not old enough to understand what was actually going on before it was too late.

Minors are incapable of giving "consent" the same way they are incapable of grasping global ideologies and complex moral/political issues in order to vote or have a lucid opinion. They are still emotionally and intellectually developing. Any nation or set of laws that fails to protect underage women (even from themselves) is a bankrupt nation.

What Whoopie Goldberg is suggesting is morally bankrupt and anti-woman. If ever there was an example of reverse-sexism from a fake-feminist, this is it.

PS: For a true example of feminism, I refer you to Jesus Christ. He defined feminism as ascribing equal worth to the feminine nature as is ascribed to the masculine nature (which astounded first-century, Middle Eastern sensibilities and did not help win Him any sympathies during His mock trial). Fake feminism is what "modern feminism" is: believing that women have to be men to be equal and in the process, must emasculate men due to women's innate insecurities.
10/01/09 @ 13:15
Comment from: OGRE / (Jeff) [Member] Email
Me and My Giant Dollar Store GlassesGreg (athrillofhope):

I agree with you 100 percent!

One of the problems plaguing Europe is "morality by consensus." Morality is not defined by consensus. This alone is probably Europe's largest problem. I'm thinking about posting an article simply about moral consensus.
10/01/09 @ 14:01

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